For some shapes, there are additional properties in the Transform window (e.g. "Line Properties"). One of these properties is Angle. However, the standard object properties already has an Angle property. How are these different? And what is the relevance of the latter when they conflict? How can they come to be conflicting? For example, here is a line which is clearly horizontal, yet the object angle is 2.5 degrees. Can I reset it to 0?

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  • what version of AI are you using? I can't recreate results Oct 18, 2017 at 16:50
  • @LateralTerminal 2015.3.1. I don't know how to make it happen either.
    – Evan
    Oct 18, 2017 at 17:31
  • Can you recreate this problem if you draw a line in a new document? Oct 18, 2017 at 17:50
  • @LateralTerminal No, I tried. If I happen to notice a particular event that causes it I will update the question.
    – Evan
    Oct 19, 2017 at 13:27
  • This is trivial to reproduce in Illustrator 24.0.1. Just create a line segment, then use the direct selection tool to grab one end and move it somewhere else (to a different angle). The two angle values in the Transform panel are now different. I am just learning Illustrator, and I assumed that the very basics (lines & paths) would have a clear logic; I find it infuriating that something as simple as this has no explanation that I can find even after hours of hunting around. Dec 31, 2019 at 2:22

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The two fields are the same value. Change one and the other will update to reflect the same change.

It's merely a duplication in the UI. As for why it's duplicated... you'd have to ask Adobe.

To be honest, I have no clue how you go them to be different values. However, the option to Align to Pixel Grid at the bottom of the Transform panel would suggest you are using an older version of Illustrator. There may have been a bug which was later corrected.

  • They aren't quite the same thing, the other is attributes for line objects. This is one of adobes attempt to become svg compatible with illustrator, and i think they are failing horribly. They first need to fix illustrators transformation stack.
    – joojaa
    Oct 18, 2017 at 19:28
  • @joojaa all I know is here.. the two fields sync and can never be different values, at least not in AICC2017.
    – Scott
    Oct 18, 2017 at 19:40
  • Try putting in group and rotating that, then change the object.
    – joojaa
    Oct 18, 2017 at 20:29
  • Still seems to duplicate @joojaa -- actually it's largely inconsistent. The <group> may not have a value in the rotate field even if the objects in the group are rotated. Basically.. looks really "buggy" here :) Glad I don't rely on it.
    – Scott
    Oct 18, 2017 at 20:32
  • It is trivial to make the two values be different - see my comment beneath the OP question. Dec 31, 2019 at 2:24

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