simple issue or maybe really complex. another day of alignment issues that I can't wrap my head around.

Here's the stages (accompanied by images):

I have finalized one half of my logo design enter image description here

I create a grid enter image description here

I duplicate the object and flip it 180degrees horizontally, then I duplicate the grid

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I align the central points of the object to the grid.

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The object doesn't align to the other one.

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Question is why? Second question is can I even make it symmetrical? Third question is do I need to and would a professional graphic designer of the likes of Massimo Vignelli have done this process in another way?

please help, brain is burning out and I really need your professional expertise.

  • Is Align to Pixel Grid on or off?
    – Scott
    Nov 13, 2020 at 21:21
  • I assume you mean Snap to Grid and yes, it is off, I only have snap to point on. Nov 13, 2020 at 21:28
  • No. I mean Align to Pixel Grid <-- that's a link, click it 😀-- Check the various answers, they've moved the feature since they implemented it and where it's located depends upon your version of Illustrator.
    – Scott
    Nov 13, 2020 at 21:30
  • And I don't think Massimo was a computer user to any real degree. :) He'd have done it all by hand with triangles, French curves, and t-squares.
    – Scott
    Nov 13, 2020 at 21:35
  • Illustrator doesn't let me use that option as it says contains art that cannot be aligned. yeah, I know he didn't like them :( Nov 13, 2020 at 21:37

1 Answer 1


I think all those guides are confusing. Hard to tell what is snapping to what.

Try to keep it simple:

  • Switch to Outline mode using Ctrl / Cmd + Y.
  • Select the blue shape.
  • Place the mouse cursor over one of the anchor points of the blue shape you know will have to snap to one of the anchor points in the red shape.
  • Drag the shape until it snaps to the correct anchor point in the red shape.

As you can see even in this small size, the two circles don't fit exactly on top each other. Having merged them with other shapes have caused small deformations. So in order to avoid having some of the red circle sticking out beneath the blue circle, you probably have to remove the red circle somehow.

  • Excellent point about the deformation @Wolff- learn something new (almost) every day...
    – Kyle
    Nov 14, 2020 at 16:34

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