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I have been looking at many of the questions asked about similar fonts or alternate fonts that can be used in place of a more expensive or popular one. One of the interesting things to look at is when you overlay one set of font over another and seeing where the differences are.

I was wondering if there is some guidelines or standards (even consensus) among people working in the area of typography of just how much change is needed for a new font to be recognized as such. I realize this might be a very ambiguous question, but what I was thinking of are in terms of:

  • Numbers, letter and symbols being different
  • Uppercase and lowercase being different
  • Actual degree of change/difference in the font characteristics (e.g. position, slant, width)
  • No perfect match of individual characters or numbers with the font that it is derived from

I think it is difficult to establish some of these criteria for fonts that are a hybrid of a number of different fonts, but the criteria can still be applied for each of the fonts that it borrows from to ensure that it is not just a simple mix and match of different existing fonts to create a new font.

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    I like that you mention consensus among people working in the area of typography instead of 'things people do'. If there isn't an agreement at the moment, the question itself can become a guideline :)
    – Yisela
    Jul 2, 2014 at 0:58
  • @JohnB Thanks for the open bounty. I hope it gets more attention because I really like to see some answers to this as well. Jul 8, 2014 at 22:51
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    It should be noted that there is rarely consensus among people working in the area of typography. :)
    – DA01
    Jul 9, 2014 at 20:35
  • @DA01 But people do seem to know when their work has been 'copied' or 'stolen', and are not afraid to speak up about it... I never thought that there were many things that are truly original in the creative world. Jul 9, 2014 at 23:16
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    It's probably worth noting as well that--at least in the USA--legal protection of typeface designs has been historically non-existent.
    – DA01
    Jul 9, 2014 at 23:19

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I don't know that there's a good consensus for what exactly constitutes a "new work" any within creative field. Obviously, there some clear lines (like straight copying of elements, etc.), but typography raises an interesting problem in that there are only so many variations on the basic form of each letter. For example, there are alternate (two story) versions of the lowercase letters G and A, as well as numerous ligature variation.

Other variations center around the proportions of the letterform. Most alphabets are quite flexible when it comes to modifying character shape: a quick image search will show the variety possible. These considerations can significantly alter the resulting typeface's tone and legibility. OpenDyslexic is a good example of what modifying a letterform can do.

What one person considers a ripoff another could easily consider a poorly done tribute or redraw. (See the issue of Helvetica vs. Arial for an example of that).

Not to be that guy who is super precise: each and every imaginable variation, regardless of how small the change was, would technically constitute a new font, but I think you're asking about typefaces. See AIGA's They're Not Fonts for a bit more on the difference and why it's very relevant here (it really is, though).

As far the specific font properties you describe (position, slant, width, style of numbers, letters, symbols, and various cases), those have formal definitions that fit within a typeface family.

For example, consider the superfamily Univers.

image of Univers
(source: harsco.com)

As you can see, there are many variations of character width, stroke thickness, slant, and stroke angle — however, each of these variations are considered a single typeface. Thickness is often defined on a scale from ultra thin to ultra black, angle be described with terms like italic (though italic is more than just angle) and oblique, width can be ultra condensed to ultra wide.

Additionally, type families can include variations such as small caps, monospace, cursive, even scientific or mathematical (often containing many specialized symbols for equations or technical diagrams that wouldn't make sense for every day use).

To get a better understanding of how fonts and typefaces fit together and what constitutes a new one of each, I would highly recommend reading Ellen Lupton's book Thinking With Type — the freely available companion website is also a fantastic resource and doesn't require a payment to Amazon et. al.


Bringing all of that back around to answer your question: any of the variations that would fall under under a family or superfamily should be considered part of the original family. An example: you create an extended symbol set and lining figures for the Fanwood typeface. You have simply added to the original family and your additions might be best considered "Fanwood Scientific," "Fanwood Technical," or even "Fanwood Numeric" — they are, however, part of a new font.

However, say you were to find an old manuscript that you wanted to use as the basis for a new typeface, (provided it wasn't a known face already) you could feasibly redraw the letterforms, optimize them for a specific display case such as screen, and consider it a new typeface. Obviously, the ethical thing to do there would be to cite the source of inspiration or reference, but it could be (keeping in mind that "new work" is a fuzzy term) considered to be a new and distinct typeface.

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  • I noticed that many 'new fonts' seem to be an extension or variation on an existing type family, which is why I wanted to ask this question. Some really good points and references provided, so I am interested to see if there is some 'consensus' on this matter. Jul 9, 2014 at 23:14
  • Even if the consensus is that there is no consensus... But surely at some point most of the variations possible with a font family will have been exhausted, so it would be interesting to see if there is some analysis on this and a mapping of the 'font-family tree' explored. Jul 9, 2014 at 23:25
  • @MichaelLai it's quite possible that the "font family tree" is nearly limitless when you consider technical aspects like kerning, ligatures, and format. For example, look at the number of available versions of Caslon. There's book of essays, Design Writing Research, that I vaguely feel I might have something on the topic. I'll read through it again and let you know if if find anything relevant.
    – justin
    Jul 9, 2014 at 23:34
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    @MichaelLai I finished revisiting DWR and didn't find the essay I was thinking of. Laws of the Letter (pp. 53 - 61) discusses the properties of typefaces and how various type has evolved over time, which might be quite relevant.
    – justin
    Jul 12, 2014 at 15:44
  • Do you mind summarizing the main character variations and their impact on the typeface (so as to complete the answer to the question) and I'll be happy to accept this as the answer to my question? Jul 15, 2014 at 0:25
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The only thing required to make a font 'a new font' is to do a SAVE AS... and give it a new file name.

Technically, that is now a new font file.

In terms of design of the font, there are no rules what-so-ever.

Some foundries sell the exact same design as different names (with permission and licensing). They are different fonts. But the same exact design.

Sometimes someone does a 'revival' where they take a historic face, give it some slight tweaks, and then market it as a new font.

And sometimes, unscrupulous people just literally copy the design of a font and slap a new name on it.

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  • You wouldn't be talking about things like 'Comic Sans Neue' would you? Jul 9, 2014 at 23:14
  • @MichaelLai while that was more of a joke project, sure, that could fit into examples above (likely #2).
    – DA01
    Jul 9, 2014 at 23:15
  • But at least it stops people from constantly complaining about how bad Comic Sans is. Some people forget that it was designed when iPhones were not around and user interfaces were rather basic. Jul 9, 2014 at 23:18
  • @MichaelLai we're veering off-topic now, but a lot of type folks wouldn't say that Comic-Sans, in and of itself, is necessarily bad. It's just that it's typically used in all the wrong contexts.
    – DA01
    Jul 9, 2014 at 23:20
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I am surprised no one has mentioned this, as it is at the definitional centre of the question: legally speaking (almost everywhere) typeface designs cannot be trademarked, only their names. Fonts on the other hand, are considered software, and can be trademarked, patented, etc. This means the digital file: the vector outlines that make up the letters. No matter how similar two fonts appear, these outlines always have a unique digital fingerprint—something that saving with new name won't erase. But you can print out every glyph, trace them by hand, rescan and compile: that would be perfectly legal.

One notable exception are those typefaces which were never trademarked when they were digitised and published as fonts. Palatino is a perfect example: only the name, not the outlines was trademarked. Meaning that in those cases, one can legally save them with new names and even charge for it!

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  • I guess strictly speaking I haven't really asked for a legal definition, but as you pointed out it is a very valid basis upon which to try and answer the question. My feeling is that a designer would probably not really just trace the glyphs that they printed out by hand and then try to claim it as a new font, but two designers might converge on similar concepts for a font without realizing it. This is why I am interested in how much 'difference' stylistically and structurally would constitute a 'new' typeface. May 26, 2016 at 5:49
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    The legal status of typefaces and fonts isn't the same "almost everywhere". The US and UK are very different for example.
    – Cai
    May 26, 2016 at 9:39
  • Yes the laws protecting (or not protecting) TYPEFACES vary greatly from place to place, but by treating fonts as SOFTWARE, they vary much less.
    – Moscarda
    May 28, 2016 at 16:18
  • @MichaelLai : Yes I agree it is poor form to simply retrace previous designs as a loophole to allow copying it and calling it something new. I understand your interest in trying to define a stylistic/structural difference but this will always be subject to opinion. And many will argue that it's all been done before, or that great artists steal: I don't buy either sentiments. Personally I like to print out glyphs of my favourites to merge disparate styles into something new, or create a monospaced version of standard face, but never to copy.
    – Moscarda
    May 28, 2016 at 16:27
  • I guess perhaps the better question to ask might be what things to designers check for when creating a new typeface to make sure that it is not too similar to another design? May 28, 2016 at 22:33
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To answer this question we should stress the fact that every font is a collection of multiple objects and not a single object based unity. From this point we can understand that every change in every symbol is a variation, and the range of variations begins from slight subtle changes to very prominent significant changes until creation of the collection with own recognisable appearance/look.

There is no answer to "how much alterations..", more important WHAT was altered/changed OR/AND newly-introduced... in terms of quality and not in terms of quantity.

Most of the fonts have some special features - original serifs, ligatures etc and if someone affects part of them - variation is created. Again, it is more important what the change is and not how many changes performed. If someone introduces a new particular permanent feature to the entire font in a way that most of the people will differentiate them - we can state that the new font can fly on its own, in terms of similarity. If some feature appears only on some particular font and someone introduce new features leaving this unique one without change- the new font is probably a variation, and not a "unique font".

The question is a general one, so the answer is general. If we had an example we could vote in some direction, but only the court (which should be objective) can decide if there is copyright infringement based on many opinions from the specialists.

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    So Ilan are you trying hard not to say "there is no consensus" and any change the athor thinks is sufficient is sufficient unless court rules otherwise. Which would be close to my feeling too.
    – joojaa
    Jul 9, 2014 at 15:39
  • @joojaa I am trying to say there is no clear cut answer and yes - probably there is no consensus because the typography develops evolutionary and all new fonts somehow grow up from old ones...
    – Ilan
    Jul 9, 2014 at 15:48

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