# Cut hole without stroke into object with stroke

I have a custom white object with black stroke, like this:

I want to cut a hole into that, so I create an object like this:

If I do Minus Front from the pathfinder, I get this:

But I don't want the stroke on the circle in the middle. How can I do that?

I want it to look like this:

• The prototype is not a compound shape you want to create - it cannot have external stroke without internal one. – Ilan Aug 2 '15 at 20:03
• @Ilan: But how can I do a shape like the one below then? – gartenriese Aug 2 '15 at 20:09
• It is the easiest task in the world :) it is just a circles above the shape with black stroke. Think layers! – Ilan Aug 2 '15 at 20:11

Alternative to @Ilan's method would be to add a secondary shape for the black outline. This way you can alter the color boxes and there are holes in the top shape so you don't have to alter the color for multiple objects.

Just copy the outer shape and Edit > paste in Front then apply a black stroke and no fill. You can then Group it with the white shape to move them as one object.

In any event, if you don't want strokes on the inner circles/holes you'll need at least one other object.

• Where this nice gradient came from? %)) – Ilan Aug 2 '15 at 20:48
• ... artistic license @Ilan :) Just needed to show the construction basics, and not adhere perfectly to the sample image. :) – Scott Aug 2 '15 at 20:48
• Could you elaborate? – Ilan Aug 2 '15 at 20:50
• I added the gradient (black to white set to overlay mode at 50% opacity). The actual color fills are inconsequential to the question. – Scott Aug 2 '15 at 20:52
• No. I rebuilt the image. It was much quicker, and more accurate, just to recreate it than it would be to trace it. – Scott Aug 2 '15 at 20:55

As I commented you cannot make a hole in a way you try (because of a stroke).

But actually, this picture does not imply any compound shape - there are just regular ones layered one upon another:

I did it in a minute:

These are the layers:

(made on the retina, thus the size was doubled - sorry about that)

• The circles inside the shape belong to the paths, they are not seperate objects. – gartenriese Aug 2 '15 at 20:54
• How do you know %) – Ilan Aug 2 '15 at 20:55
• It's my object. :-D – gartenriese Aug 2 '15 at 21:06
• Anyway the issue is the stroke.... – Ilan Aug 2 '15 at 21:08