I'm hoping someone has the answer to this.

I have a frame with a stroke around it, and I want to position a text box with the word 'bird' in front of it. There is no colour fill, but I don't think that matters. The 'frame with stroke' and 'bird' are on the same layer but I can't arrange the word to the front. If I drag 'bird' off to the side, it appears, and also appears when dragged in front of other text boxes, but won't show in front of frame with stroke.

I also tried putting them on separate layers but that doesn't help.

I searched this problem and found a couple of suggestions, one being to unlock all on spread, but nothing is locked and this is a new document created to try and figure out this problem, so no other lurking problems.

Thank you in advance for any suggestions, and please ask if I have not included any info that would help find solutions.

  • A bit difficult to follow. Why not edit and add a screenshot, so we don't assume the wrong things here.
    – Lucian
    Commented Feb 15, 2017 at 21:03
  • Can't you just add a stroke to the text frame containing the word? That makes it all 1 object.
    – Scott
    Commented Feb 15, 2017 at 21:14
  • If its 2 objects you have, one with a stroke and one with the text, then agree with Scott's reply and just put a stroke on the text object (or frame), then just remove the other object.
    – Lucian
    Commented Feb 15, 2017 at 21:24

1 Answer 1


It looks like a wrapping "issue".
Check your "frame with stroke" has no Text Wrap applied.

If for some reason, you need to keep the text wrap option on in your "stroke frame", then select your "bird frame", go Object > Text Frame Options and tick "Ignore Text Wrap":


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