# Giving measurements of an irregular shaped piece of paper

How can I give my designer detailed information about the measurements of an irregular shaped piece of paper. I create the piece of paper with such an punch:

• I can't measuring it with a normal ruler, because of the form.
• I can't send the piece of paper to him.

I have an idea but I don't know if it's working. Would scanning be an option? After the scan process the document will be saved as .pdf.

The size must be millimeter precision — if it's possible.

• You cannot measure it with a ruler? why is that? Just put the ruler on top of it... – Luciano May 12 '17 at 9:37
• Another idea: maybe ask your designer about it? Send an email and tell what you need? – Luciano May 12 '17 at 9:39
• Personally I'd appreciate the width measured as shown with the blue line here. The designer should be able to resize the image to the right size based this dimension and then use it as a reference. Scanned image would be potentially better, but not necessary... necessarily... If the design has something like a Stroke that follows the outline of the shape, then a scan would be more reliable. – Joonas May 12 '17 at 9:40
• You will need to use a ruler to measure it. As a graphic designer myself, I would refuse to work for a client who would not or could not give me the exact measurements of a job. I don't need clients like that, and I doubt your designer does either. If you want to have a door made by a carpenter, to fit the hole in your wall, you need to tell him the size, otherwise they will tell you to get lost. – Billy Kerr May 12 '17 at 9:59
• according to google the puch is is 1-5/8″ x 1-5/8" – joojaa May 12 '17 at 10:20

How to measure things with a ruler:

1. use a ruler

• Measure the width and height of the object,
• measure the inner square
• Measure the distance from the inner square to cut (r). the r is the radius of a circle that create the bows

• I love your first 2 lines. – theonlygusti May 12 '17 at 14:53
• The outward-facing arcs may not be parts of circles, and the ones near the points (at the ends of the "W" segment) almost certainly aren't. – Mark S. May 13 '17 at 13:00
• For step 1, “use a ruler”, better advice is use a digital caliper – James Waldby - jwpat7 May 13 '17 at 15:37
• @JamesWaldby-jwpat7 A Divider caliper AKA a compass is the tool of choice, whereas the typical vernier caliper is not noticeably better than a ruler in this case since there is no surface to push against. Ruler a is fine. – joojaa May 13 '17 at 18:23
• I would use roller ruler but as OP had problems with measuring it with regular ruler I doubt he have such a tool. – SZCZERZO KŁY May 16 '17 at 10:08

get a piece of millimeter paper, put your shape onto it and scan the pile. Orient the symmetry axles of your shape along the grid as accurately as possible.

Add also major diameters as numbers.

• Or just punch the graph paper itself if you've got the punch to hand – Chris H May 12 '17 at 12:29
• @ChrisH that's not so easy. The orientation will be a flyaway thing. – user287001 May 12 '17 at 17:42

Either scan or photograph the cutout shape next to a ruler. Any designer worth the title will be able to redraw the shape from that and then send you back a file that you can print out at 100% scale to verify the shape. I've had to do similar things in the past and I've been able to get well within a millimetre of the actual shape.

A couple of tips:

• Two rulers are better than one - place one horizontally and one vertically so that both can be checked
• Scanning is better, but if you choose to use a photo instead then zoom in as far as you can and take the photo from a distance - this will give you less distortion

One other thing: The manufacturers of these Punches sometimes have diagrams of the shapes available. Either on their websites, or made available if you request them via email.

• I would say they almost always do, they just don't share them automatically – joojaa May 12 '17 at 11:23

Attach some tape to the piece of paper and stick it to a sturdy desk so it is oriented upright.

Next to it place the following items:

Left of piece of paper:

• Pea
• Dime (standing)
• Golf Ball

Right of the piece of paper:

• Tangerine
• Apple
• Tennis ball