Questions tagged [kerning]

Questions about the adjustment of spacing between font glyphs to achieve a visually pleasant arrangement.

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Difference between kerning vs letter spacing?

What is the difference between kerning vs. letter spacing?
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My Xylophone is off key; Understanding this kerning

I was playing a kerning game where the goal is to see if you can kern a word by eye and then compare your kerning with that of the designer. I was doing... ok. Until I got to: I kerned is as such: ...
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Is that a good kerning?

What do you think of this kerning? What adjustments should I make?
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Kerning Hebrew diacritics in InDesign

In Hebrew, there are some diacritics which occasionally need to be combined. However, a frequent result is that they will all be centered, leading to a stack of characters which need to be re-kerned. ...
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What is kerning and what is the point of it?

From what I see here, it seems kerning is just rearranging the space between letters. However, the comments here lead me to believe there's more to the story. Is kerning really that simple? Is the ...
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What are some common kerning pairs?

Setting up good kerning is one of the most important parts of designing a typeface. Cheap or free fonts often have bad or non existent kerning and it gets incredibly tedious having to manually kern ...
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Kerning Feedback

I'm currently looking at a new font for a logo and I'm having some issues with the kerning of our lettering. I've search the web for guidance on kerning, in particular when using double lowercase ...
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Kerning feedback on logo

I'm kerning this simple 'logo' for an online magazine/blog and since I'm not completely sure if I've 'got it' I would appreciate some help from any kern masters here. I've zoomed out and flipped it ...
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What is a polynomial kerning table?

From Robert Bringhurst's The Elements of Typographic Style: Names like T.V.R. Murti and T.R.V Murti, for example, pose microscopic typographic problems that no binomial kerning table can solve. ...
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Why do I need to adjust kerning? Shouldn't the foundry already have done that?

I'm new in graphic design and am learning type design now. I'm learning about kerning now and it all makes sense except I'm wondering why the kerning wouldn't be built into the font style already. I'...
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Kerning on the fly

Do anyone know any algorithm which would calculate automatically kerning of characters based on glyph shapes when user types text? I don't mean trivial calculation of advance widths or similar, I ...
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Online radio logo feedback request (Part 2)

After gathering valuable feedback, I worked on a second version for the logo of my online radio station that plays indie music without commercial interruptions. I wanted to come up with an original ...
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Inconsistent kernings shown in metrics view in FontForge

I am working to modify an existing font (Sacramento, under SIL OFL license), and wish to adjust kernings after having made a few stylistic changes. I thought I had found the proper way to do it (...
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Critique: logo design for an engineering company that makes machinery

I'm designing a logo for a new company that will build plastic manufacturing machinery - a fairly small-sized low-tech industry where stability, solid engineering, and even country of manufacturer is ...
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Is kerning lacking in the Gentium font?

I seem to recall from my reading (a while back) that kerning was a problem for the Gentium font in accented Latin characters. Is this still the case? And why would the kerning be different for ...
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Symbols “degrees” and “degrees centigrade”: proper spacing

For mathematical and physical units, usually there is a thin space between the number and the unit, in the LaTeX syntax for example $1008\,\mathrm{kPa}$. However, I feel that angular degrees (e.g. $...
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Kerning Approach for Letters with Large Spaces

Is there a specific approach to kerning letters with large spaces (apologies if there's a technical term for this)? For example, the 'T' and 'Y' below both have large amounts of space either side of ...
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Are there any benefits to using kerning pairs over kerning classes?

I've been learning how to use FontForge and am now getting my feet wet with kerning. I see that there are two options to do kerning: classes and pairs. To me, classes seem to have no downside. When ...
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Why are computers so bad at automatically kerning?

Photoshop, Illustrator and similar graphic design software are in general bad at kerning. Why does the computer find it so hard that we need to manually go through headlines and text just to get it ...
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Is kerning also applied when there is a space between characters?

The Wikipedia article stats that kerning is the process of adjusting the spacing between characters in a proportional font, usually to achieve a visually pleasing result. For intance when we look ...
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How to create SVG for good typography on the web without buying Illustrator?

I have a web font which I would like to display using SVG instead of in HTML. The reason for this is that I want to display large typographically beautiful text, and I don't see any way of getting the ...
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Is the kerning on my logo correct?

I've been kerning this logo and I'd love input from those well versed on the subject. I'm particularly interested with the space around the "f", but also appreciate any other kerning input or advice. ...
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Proper use of ligature and kerning [duplicate]

I had a disagreement about the correct use of a ligature and kerning in a headline and would appreciate any help in seeking insight on the issue. The issue is with the "f" and "t". One side believes ...
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How do I convert leading and kerning expressed to CSS styles

I have been given a design / style guide for a website that has the fonts expressed in point (pt) measurements, and additional leading and kerning adjustments - e.g. 40pt font, 60pt leading, -30pt ...
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Photoshop tracking and kerning: what do the number values mean?

Working on a site design where I'm trying to translate a tracking value of "100" to the CSS letter-spacing property. When I specify a tracking value of "100", what am I saying? Definitely doesn't ...
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How to fix this kerning pair

How do I fix a font with a problematic kerning pair. The problematic pair is capital T preceded by a space, when set in Helvetica Neue 55, and with kerning set to 'Metrics', using InDesign. The ...
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Typographers' “canon of exemplars”: What are some books that typographers think are examples of great typography?

Please note that I am not asking for famous books about typography (like this question does), although I imagine that such books would usually themselves be examples of great typography. What I have ...
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What's the origin of “Kern, Baby, Kern.”?

On many blogs and typo-webpages, tutorials etc. I keep seeing variations of this phrase "Kern, Baby, Kern." I have searched for it and found many more occurrences, so it must be a profound truth or a ...
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Kerning in FontForge does not seem to have any effect

I am trying to add kerning data to my font. I have manually kerned each letter pair in the “Kern Pair Closeup” window, like this: But these settings do not seem to export once the TTF is generated. ...
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What computer subsystem is responsible for font kerning?

Kerning - adjustment of the space between two specific letters. I am just wondering what computer subsystem is responsible for font kerning. Is it font engine? Or it is quality of specific font? If ...
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How to apply horizontal kerning to all letters in the word at once without adjusting the spacing for each letter?

I am trying to increase the spacing between letters in a word in Inkscape (version 0.48) by using horizontal kerning. I am not able to select the entire word and apply the kerning value at once. I ...
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Font with equal spacing between letters

I am just beginning to learn about fonts and typography so pardon if my question seems naive. I really like the look of Futura Bold for titles in a powerpoint presentation I'm making but the unequal ...
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The logic of kerning classes

I am a beginner with FontForge and I would like to know: Whit is the best logic to create classes. I mean: I have to kern, say, VA but Va too. Obviously, I have to kern a lot of other glyphs with a. ...
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Improper kerning in iOS app, using Helvetica Neue

I think I'm posting this question in the proper SE site, as it pertains more to designers than programmers. I developed an iOS app with a programmer (I'm the artist), and we're using Helvetica Neue. ...
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Software with automatic kerning?

I'm working on a logotype in Sketch and has set some text in Futura. Unfortunately the kerning looks quite bad and I'm not skilled enough to correct it manually using the character spacing property in ...
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Please check my kerning for this logo

could you please check the kerning for this logo? I'm a UI designer not a graphic designer. I have no confidence with kerning/letter spacing but I have to do this nonetheless. If this is not the best ...
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Tracking in relation to kerning

I understand tracking relates to all pairs and word spaces while kerning relates to specific pairs. I’m wondering about how tracking is related to kerning: Is tracking added to kerning linearly, ...
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How is my kerning?

I'm new to graphic design and I have this branding project I am working on. I need to know how my kerning is for the dimension given in the picture below; I'm finding it rather difficult in ...
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When designing in the browser how would someone use kerning?

OghmaOsiris asked how would one decide on what is the proper kerning, "Kerning: My Xylophone is off key" and since I have started the transition of designing in the browser I was curious to know how ...
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Kerning absent in .ttf and .otf files made with with Fontographer 5

I configured my font's kerning for every possible letter combination in Fontographer 5 and when I preview it from there, everything is as it should be, but when I generate the font files (TTF and OTF) ...
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Ideal letter spacing on signage – tight or loose?

Now I’m not sure if large signs should be kerned like normal sized type on a page. If they need a bit of tweaking, should you tighten the kerning and tracking or loosen it? I know generally small ...
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The logic of kerning subtables

Referring to this thread: The logic of kerning classes, I considered various lookups of some fonts (Adobe Premiere, Minion, EBGaramond...) to understand better the way of build them and the relative ...
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Can't get my cursive font to connect fluidly (FontForge)

I've made a cursive, Arabic-esque font in FontForge and everything works great, but the letters don't quite connect right, there's almost always a little gap. I've tried messing with kerning and ...
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How to import an SVG image and set the SVG width as the gliph advance?

I use Inkscape to draw one SVG file per letter and FontForge to integrate it. For this, I follow this guide of FontForge documentation. In the SVG file, I use the right border to indicate a character’...
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From optical to manual kerning (critique)

I'm working in Illustrator. The default letter-spacing (Auto) doesn't look very good. I think changing kerning to Optical is already an improvement. That said I still think there are a few issues. ...
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Online radio logo feedback request

I'm working on a new logo concept for my online radio station and would like to receive feedback about the following: Is the kerning/spacing appropriate? Do you find the symbol appealing, unique and ...
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Custom kerning of an existing typeface?

I'm a designer working with developers to create a mobile app. A central part of the app involves showing the number "100" as a central element of focus. Unfortunately, the font we're using has ...
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Beginner question: how do I use the “move tool” in Gimp without moving the entire Layer?

I typed a short piece of text in GIMP, then I want to fix the kerning manually so I want to move the letters closer to each other. But when I select the "move" tool and click on the appropriate part ...
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How to export font with “Kern Tables” and not “GPOS Tables” using fontforge?

Font Kerning is not supported on the platform (Unity) when it is in "GPOS Tables" rather it supports "Kern Tables". I have a font in which I've added kerning by classes in Lockups and in matrix window ...
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EB Garamond is available in a few places, but includes different things in each. Which way is best to go?

I have been trying EB Garamond for the time being, but I'm confused as to why there are a couple different sets: Google Fonts and Adobe: Contains Regular, Medium, SemiBold, ExtraBold with their ...